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group of conservative activists. the big speaker we're waiting for, the one to watch, in 45 minute, chris christie. we want to see how he is perceived by activists here. he often times rubs them the wrong way. >> dana bash, i appreciate it. thanks very much. thanks everyone for joining me. i'm anderson cooper this hour with berman and michaela starts now. >> new threats and dangers from ukraine, latest on the ground at this hour. the speech that could make or break new jersey governor chris christie in front of what would be the hostile crowd. every obstacle you could imagine. how one dynamic principal is turning things around. he's one of the revelations in the new cnn original series
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"chicagoland." hello everyone. i'm john berman. michaela is off today. it's 8:00 a.m. those stories and more at this hour. we're seeing dramatic events unfold almost every hour on several fronts on the crisis in ukraine. moments ago ukraine's prime minister announced it is, will be part of ukraine. action from the white house. president barack obama signed executive order authorizing sanctions against people and entities they say are behind the crisis. the state department is imposing on a visa band on russians deemed responsible for threatening the integrity of ukraine. while that is happening, a game changer in crimea. the parliament voted today to leave ukraine and join russia which has the peninsula under de
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facto control. it's up to the people there to decide. people in crimea will vote. a referendum will be held ten days from now. again, ukraine's prime minister says crimea will remain part of ukraine. you can see tensions there. the historic city there, riot police in a standoff with demonstrators outside key government buildings. so much going on. we'll ask about what could happen if crimea ditches ukraine and joins russia. i want to start with michelle at the white house. explain how new sanctions announced today are supposed to work. >> reporter: there's a couple of parts to this executive order. the first part is freezing of assets. senior administration officials said that those individuals and entities as they spell it out in the order haven't been identified yet or designated by the u.s. government. that's something they can do starting today now that this has been authorized.
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the second part is refusal of entry to certain people. visa band, everyone revocations. they're going to have visas revoked. officials said that's in process. there's a so called list of people. officials wouldn't name them or say how many of them there are. that's already in process. people who's visas will be revok revoked, they're being notified. this says it's illegal to fund these organization and supply money to them. so the first step is really individuals. it was clarified today also. this is something officials have mentioned in the past. now that the order is in place, they wanted to say if they were going to sanction a head of state, putin of course in this case, that would be extraordinary unusual step. for now at least they're not going to go that route. they're going to take this step by step as they have been doing over the past couple of days.
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now who are these individuals in general? well, they spelled it out there are four categories they would fall into. people who have been deemed by the u.s. government to undermine democratic processes in ukraine, undermine security in ukraine. people misappropriating funds there or unauthorized government in kiev. >> it's important to note vladimir putin not on the list. yes, frustration and rhetoric directed at him but not sanctions. i want to bring in what i think would be the most combustible issue now. the most combustible development in crimea. the parliament there in crimea voted to join russia. they called this referendum ten days from now to let the people there vote. which country do you want to be a part of? ukraine or russia?
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to me this poses such a problem for the united states. what if the people there vote to become part of russia? >> exactly. if we believe that the people's voice should be heard, people of crimea should decide what they want, you know, it's a 60% russian majority. there's a large group of people who are historically tied to russia. crimea was part of russia until 1954. it was gifted in a kind of internal transfer because it was all part of the soviet union. the soviet leader transferred crimea from russia to ukraine but all within the one country, soviet union. it stayed part of russia until 1991. so ukraine has not had crimea that long. you're exactly right. what's likely to happen the referendum will go in direction of russia. ukrainian parliament will not accept that referendum. then you have two different legal realities but the
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political and military reality is that russia will have taken over crimea. >> sounds like the situation is worse than now. how will the united states justify the sanctions that we have, the rhetoric that's coming out of the white house now, completely justified in some cases, if the people in crimea say we want to be for the of russia? >> part of the problem here john is that everything happened so fast in a crazy revolution fashion that nobody is really following the law perfectly. so an elected ukrainian president was deposed essentially by street gangs and protests, very heroic. this guy was elected. now crimea is claiming they can hold their own independent referendum which is not allowed. the referendum has to be held in all of ukraine. when law gets murky i think you
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look at where the troops and power are. russia has the power. whatever sanctions we put in place, they're not enough to deter them. this is vital to them. this is where the west made a mistake. we didn't recognize ukraine was an issue for us and europeans. russia is at the absolute heart of russian power. >> it makes it difficult to say u.s. or russia is on one side of democracy. so many moments are disputed. let's talk about the sanctions. are these symbolic or hit vladimir putin where it hurts? >> they're symbolic. it's tough to do sanctions when they're not comprehensive and not complete. by which i mean you need to have everybody participating. that's why iran sanctions worked because obama went to u.n., got chinese and russians to agree. in this case, europeans are not
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buying in. they need electricity, power too much to agree. chinese have not come on board. these are unilateral american sanctions. they're also not complete. they don't involve the heart of russia's power, oil and natural gas. when you have leaky sanctions like that, historically they rarely work. >> and of course the european union leaders meeting today now. what does the u.s. need to do? what can the u.s. do to influence european lead pers to get into this sanction game? >> i think what we have to recognize is we're not going to get a perfect solution in terms of trying to make russia pay a price for what's happened. we're going to have to fire on multiple fronts and in hope doing so collectively you force the russians to pay a price and ask themselves, was this worth it? is this worth a political settlement? is there an a off ramp?
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>> there's no silver bullet. it would be a complete set of sanctions involving oil and gas. not going to happen. it would involve united nations ended sanctions. you're already in the realm not of second best but fourth, fifth best options. moral condemnation, political condemnation, cancel the g 8, some sanctions, that's the best you can do. >> you have made a compelling case to me and others. vladimir putin and russia is not necessarily in a better place than the go political sense a week ago. >> think about it. he'll have crimea. as a result, crimeans hate him and russia. prize of ukraine slipped out of russia's control. poland had warming relations with russia and now calling emergency meetings. so are czechs. the germans say putin is
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dilutional. trade will slow down between europe and russia. chinese are looking at him worried. turks are looki ing worried. he gets crime i can't part of an i think s insurgencey when he's been battling. you've u'vewh need that. >> thank you. we'll have the in-depth analysis and all this on his show which airs every sunday 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. eastern here. who knows by the situation will be. it is changing every minute. a head for us at this hour, chris christie in the hot seat. the conservative conference that shut its doors on him last year has him back as a featured speaker today. he'll be at the podium in a few minutes. we have inside word on what he might say to charm this crowd.
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[ male announcer ] cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. that the hour, conservatives are gathering near washington for their big annual meeting. cpac it's called. big names marco rubio, rand paul, ryan and ted cruz. listen to what he said. >> you want to lose elections, stand for nothing. the last four congressional elections, 06, 08, 10, 12, three of four we follow had the strategy. 06, 08, 12 we put our head down,
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stood for nothing and got walloped. the one tremendous that was 2010 republicans drew a line in the stand and said we stand against obama care, against bankrupting the country and won a historic title wave of an election. >> ted cruz almost never speaks from behind the podium. could this have been a call to arms for cruz backers? maybe. a poll shows 4% of republicans say they will vote for senator ted cruz. the big news from cpac might not be cruz you but chris christie. he's back this year speaking in a few minutes. we'll bring you that live when it happens. the new jersey governor was not invited last your after he appeared praising president barack obama in the wake of super storm sandy. some saw that as betrayal. now following the bridgegate
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scandal, poll numbers seem to be going downhill with 9% saying they would definitely vote if he ran for president. the governor could use a helping hand from conservatives. let's bring in anna, commentator and strategist. a source close to chris christie said he will focus on what it means to be a conservative republican. do you think this audience wants to hear that from him? >> reporter: actually i do. i'll tell you i've heard chris christie before many times. he's an engaging and energetic speaker. i think he'll have a good reception here and highlight the actions of the governors. he's the chair of the republican governor's association. i expect to hear him talk about what governors are doing around the country. i expect him to take a positive approach, what republicans are for, and they need to be a party
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of ideas. i expect him to do something he doesn't usually, take a shot at media saying we as republicans can't let the media define us. very good applause here, john. >> that's an easy applause line will there. taking a shot at the media like taking a shot at the new york yankees in boston. scotty, let me ask you. anna says the governor standing tall in the face of what he believes to be unfair media treatment. in a way, has he gained from this bridgegate scandal? as focus in the eyes of the media drawn him closer to some in the conservative movement? >> reporter: well lots of people always bring the old cliche there are good and bad press working for you. in this case, governor christie may apply that. i think he lost the establishment. if we remember when bridgegate broke, all of a sudden, jeb
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bush's name started coming back as being president. that was like you know what, we can't fight this battle for you. we're going back to our old faithful jeb bush. that said, of every speaker going to be at cpac noirext few days, he has the most to gain but the most to lose too. this may be more of his fan base than ted cruz. >> more liberal than conservative. >> if you look at last we're, it was the rebuilding as being conservative. this year is liberal. you've got go proud, anarchists, people that weren't normally invited in are allowed this year. looking at speaker, you have governor christie but not balkman. >> go proud is still to be invited. >> they're not allowed to have the boot. they're allowed to come in as invited guests. they're not allowed to have the boot. that's one of the crazy things.
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people talk about cpac as being too liberal. we keep becoming smaller not larger, not growing. i don't see that as productive. regardless of that, i think cock -- i think chris christie is going to do well today. >> let me ask this question of both of you now. scotty, you're skeptical of how much gain christie can get here. christy's loss, who gains the most as christie loses among the candidates there? scotty you're first then anna. >> going to be jeb bush. if chris christie is coming from the establishment side point, you can look at rand paul, cruz, woo walker. the tea party base can work against us. the establish management not many options going into this 2016 race. you have chris christie, jeb bush and maybe a few others. the most to gain of christie
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doing bad would be jeb bush. >> anna? >> well darling you know i'm not going to argue with that one i don't like the -- let me just tell you, i don't like the word establishment. that's a problem we have as republicans when we try to label each other within the republican party. i like to think of people like governors who are getting things done in the state as pragmatic performers, they are conservatives if you look at their record. anyone that looks at bush's record in florida, he had a fiscal conservative, record as governor. if you don't think so, you don't know his record. i also think there are other people that benefit. it's premature to count chris christie out. there's a long time to go. we're yet to see how this bridgegate thing settles. there's a lot time between now and the primaries. >> thank you for being with us.
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appreciate you joining us despite the volume in that hall. we can hear the excitement here or at least hear the speakers. appreciate it. ahead for us this hour. the ships trapped in the harbor. could this escalate the tension in crimea? and how this principal is turning things around in "chicagoland." just like you can access geico anytime, day or night. there is only one way to celebrate this unique similarity. witness the cheesesteak shuffle. ♪ cheesesteak, cheesesteak ♪ ♪ it's the cheesesteak shuffle! huh! ♪ ♪ every day, all day, cheesesteak, cheesesteak! ♪ ♪ every night, all night cheesesteak, cheesesteak! ♪ ♪ 9 a.m. cheesesteak! ♪ 2 p.m. cheesesteak! ♪ 4 a.m. cheesesteak! ♪ any time (ruh!) >>geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. to truck guys, the truck is everything.
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pitch pi g . we have an amazing story of revival that you simply will not want to miss. five years ago, fanger high school was one of the most violent and least successful in
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chicago. many students were learning more about gang life than math. listen to what the principal lynne dozier had to deal with. in this you could mistake her for a police detective. >> you don't know what happened? how many shots were fired? >> like three. >> you don't know what direction they were shooting? he was like i don't know what's going on. right. were they from a car or walking by? >> just people like walking i believe. >> they started shooting? >> one person. >> yeah. crazy. >> it's more about crime scene investigation than education in that case. dozier turned things around in her five years at fanger. it's inspiration and one part of the gripping story sold in the new cnn series "chicagoland" that premieres tonight. lynne is here.
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this is an inspiration. to understand why and what worked we've got to figure out how it started. tell us how bad things were when you first arrived? >> there were so many success stories across chicago and this country for hard work people do. we started out with 300 arrests in the school building. statistics go on and on. we're below 3% dropout rate. we've become leader in restorive justice and peace circles in the country and leading the way. >> what worked? so many want to know the answer to that question. >> first, just getting a good team on board. people that care and are consistent with kids, know how to build relationships and believe in promise and possibility with kids. >> was there something in grethe this possible? >> the huge part was the funding we had. we had a grant from the
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department of education for four years to support this work. >> i want to talk about that. as we expand nationally, is your success repeatable? can it happen anywhere? you had $1.6 million. without that money, could you have had success? >> i think we could have. it would have been longer. money makes it ideal. you can give kids what they need like grief counselling, anger management, smaller class sizes and these things. >> what inspired you most over the last five years? >> the kids. i have the most resilient children. just amazing kids beating the odds and doing amazing work. >> what's the saddest thing you've seen? >> saddest thing is children die. i think that's really always hard to take and hard to digest. >> this is america by the way. this is an american city. >> correct. >> that's got to be awful in that office as a principal. if giving advice to other
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schools around the country. it's not just chicago this is a problem where there are thesele which as. wh -- are these challenges. what are the keys to success? >> having a great team of teachers and advocates and great group of folks. investing in restorive justice which chicago schools has done. being a leader in that. having a way for kids to resolve conflict. incorporating student voice. students have to believe they can be more than what people may see them as today. >> the principal of the high school, thank you. you are an inspiration and in some ways the revelation in "chicagoland" it premieres tonight on cnn. you do not want to miss that. this is cnn breaking news. all right. we have breaking news at this hour. the head of the congressional black caucus is calling for
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house speaker john boehner to remove darrel isa from the oversight committee. this is to do with drama that started 24 hours ago at the oversight economy. issa had a confrontation with cummings, a member of the meeting. it continued overnight to today to what just happened on the house floor. let's bring in joe johns from washington now. bring us up to speed on recent developments. >> this was marcia fudge of ohio with the congressional black caucus. it may be bigger than that. she offered what's called a privileged resolution on the house floor alleging that the chairman of the house oversight and reform committee darrel issa acted inappropriately trying to turn off the microphones and
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trying to adjourn the meeting while congressman alijah cummings of maryland was raising objections to the way the committee was proceeding. marcia fudge essentially read this resolution. it doesn't have to be enacted immediately. bottom line, it's not likely to do far. the house of representatives as you know sort of operates as a place that is generated by force. republicans control the house of representatives. the bottom line on this is that it's escalation in the house of representatives over this fight, this spat, that occurred just yesterday in committee. and what is this about? the question of alleged irs targeting of groups including tea partiers that has gone on and on and on. a question of course where
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investigations are going. the investigation continues on capitol hill. it's a real political hot spot. in just a little while, we're expecting to hear from congressman cummings who is going to a news conference on capitol hill apparently to talk a little more about this. probably the main question going back and forth between the top democrat and top republican in the house oversight committee is where are they headed? there is pressure on the republicans to try to get the committee to hold learner, the woman at the center of all this, the focal point of the investigation into alleged irs targeting. some democrats suggested republicans want lerner to invoke her right not to testify as she has so they can hold her in contempt. some say they really want her to testify they grant immunity from prosecution which is within their power. all of this is a backdrop during
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the year of midterm elections. whether republicans are able to hold this as a political issue and whether there will be anything coming out of investigations going on by the department of justice and others. a lot of people tell us probably not. >> that's the background on this from joe johns. we just got the sound in from the chair of the congressional black caucus, calling for darrel issa to be thrown out. let's listen to that. >> darrel violated the code of official conduct that states a member, delegate, resident commissioner, officer or employee of the house shall behave at all times in a manner that shall reflect on the house. now therefore be it resolved the house of representatives strongly condemns the offensive and disrespectful manner in which chairman darrel e.issa condu conducted the hearing march 5th,
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2014 during which he turned off the microphones of the ranking member while speaking and adjourned the hearing without a vote or unanimous agreement. >> this didn't going anywhere but escalates tensions in the house of representatives. i want to bring people up to speed on what happened yesterday. show them the drama that unfolded in the committee hearing. let's listen. >> mr. chairman you cannot run a committee like this. you just cannot do this. >> what's the big deal? pl may i ask my question? >> you're free to leave. we have adjourned. the gentleman may ask the question. >> we're adjourned. close it down. >> my question to you at this point, is this just about the irs situation going on for some time? or is this a sign of what's to
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come rest of 2014? are the battle lines drawn and this is what it's going to be until november? midterm location we'res are quite like that. i ha -- midterm location we'res -- election years are quite like that. some progressive groups are targeted as well. it wasn't just tea partiers apparently who's name got in the mix here. one of thing i have to tell you. when you saw the picture of marcia fudge of ohio standing there reading that privileged resolution, the leadership on the democratic side points out that was a large swath of the entire democratic caucus standing with her. it wasn't just members of the congressional black caucus as you can see. this is a larger question of
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democrats in the minority standing up and saying don't run committees like that. we're looking sort of for a response now from the republicans and house speaker john boehner. >> that's exactly what i thought. you do not usually see that many people on the floor in the middle of the day for something that's not a huge vote. joe johns, thank you so much. >> russia accused of sinking a ship to trap ukrainian vessels. what's the strategy here and will this ignite the situation? that's next. you make a great team.
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this just in at this hour. u.s. deputy national security advisor ben rods talking about the crisis in ukraine saying via twit ter proposed referendum in crimea would violate constitution of ukraine and international law. officials are upset russia sank an old war trip trapping seven ukrainian ships. we have new video of that old warsh warship partially submerge m.d. t -- submerged in the water.
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spider, i don't know if this is blockade or act of war. it's provocative to sink a ship to block ukrainian vessels. what's the tactic? >> this is to try and stop the use of forces. there are several things russians could have done. boarded the troop to take it over, sent them to the bottom or neutralized them by blocking access to the black sea. those were the least of the options available to them. russia clearly wants to make sure the ukrainians do not have freedom of action and russians contain that. >> as bad as this look, it could have been worse? >> absolutely. they would have demanded they board the ship. compared to the location on the ground which you can isolate with forces and render it irrelevant by simply surrounding
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it and making sure they can't exercise function inside it. with the ship, it has freedom of movement, can do what it needs to do, go where it wants to go. you can limit and do that the way they did today. the other big news in crimea today. is this news there will be a referendum ten days from now where the people vote whether they want to stay with ukraine or become part of russia. ukraine says it's unconstitutional and doesn't count. united states saying they won't recognize hit and doesn't count. in you're eyes, how does that change the situation on the ground militarily? >> it doesn't change it militarily. it's provocative. that's like going to the voting booth with a gun to you're head and said vote for tom. guess who i'm going to vote for? for tom. they've been occupied by the
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russians. they own movement within crimea. this is referendum going to declare what we anticipate. they're going to align themselves. there will be diplomatic. the referendum is a front to the ukrainian people. doesn't do anything to improve the situation. it's kind of a sham. >> spider marks, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you. ahead at this hour, you saw the picture on your screen. chris christie is expected to talk about what it means to be a conservative republican in front of the crowd that hasn't always been welcoming to him. the first para olympics games are set to open. they're overshadowed by the crisis in ukraine. there's one team talking about a boycott. we'll talk about it when we come back.
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we are waiting for new jersey governor chris christie to speak at the conference in washington. this is a big moment for him. he was though the invited to this conference last year. he's there this year. he needs the support in that room if he wants to go forward with whatever plans he might have to run for president in 2016. we'll get to that the minute it starts. meanwhile the winter paralympics start tomorrow in sochi, russia. several countries including u.s., germany and uk have pulled observer delegations from the games. athletes are there, but delegations are not. we are learning there may not be full teams at opening ceremony. we are here to explain why ukraine is threatening now to boycott. joe? the team is using sport to make a political statement. they want russia to pull troops out of their country.
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if they don't, the ukraine yoan people will not participate. they told cnn sports all athletes have arrived in sochi. the delegation will hold a press conference sometime tomorrow to announce if the entire team or part of the team is going to boycott the games. the feeling here is that they can't be a part of games hosted by the same country in a conflict with their country. as you know, athletes have worked for years, dreamed for this moment. they're willing to give it up to stand up for their country. if you looked back at the history of paralympics, ukraine has had success. in '06 ukraine placed third with 25 medals. of course their history in sochi, john, remains in the balance. >> it's such a tough call. as you know joe, so many athletes train their whole lives for this one event. it's tragic for them not to get to participate. sometimes there are things much
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more important than sports. now it's not just these paralympics being affected now. i've seen other ukrainian athletes for who this is having huge effect. >> yeah. we saw an emotional ukrainian soccer team yesterday against team usa. this was scheduled to be played in ukraine's capital city but had to be moved. all problems back home did not seem to affect their play at all. in front of the small but passionate flag waving crowd, ukraine went on to beat the americans 2-0 yesterday. ukraine appeared to play inspired soccer, if you will, in the face of this international crisis gripping its country. >> joe, i watched that whole game. i'm a huge u.s. men's national team fan. part of many was rooting for ukraine. they were inspired. seemed like they were playing for more than just the meaningless game against the
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united states. jo joe carter, great to see you. appreciate it. we are a waiting chris christie expected to speak any minute at the conference in washington and expected to have pretty harsh words for media. how will that play in front of the crowd that has not always embraced him? we'll have that live in a moment. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants,
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time now to impact your world. one group is granting final wishes to terminally ill adults in america. and presill la presty works with them and the dream foundation. we followed her on some of her visits. >> so thrilled when presilla
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presley came to visit her, she broke into song. presley is a dream foundation ambassador. the charity grants wishes to adults with terminal illnesses. >> they request you would think would be crazy things, but they're not. they're simple. about getting back with your family, having a reunion. >> like seeing your sister for the first time in four years. that was her wish. >> we hugged and hugged and hugged and hugged. >> really when you stop and think of it you offer comfort, closure. they're not just recipients but the family members what they go through to try and grant that last wish when they really can't. >> according to the dream foundation, around 20,000 wishes have been fulfilled in the past
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two decades. >> says to see this and the appreciation and the love it's really unmatched that you're doing something and able to help others. the impact is immeasurable. >> impact your world, so much heart there. okay, we are waiting for conser washington. he's back at this meeting after getting the cold shoulder last year. he wasn't invited, that was a big deal. it's a big deal he is invited this year. our dana bash is there. she's always invited. dana, i think there are two obstacles governor chris christie has here. of course he has this rift he needs to heal with conservatives that really came up after superstorm sandy when he embraced president obama. a lot of people saw that as betrayal. he has that issue with conservatives. and in a national sense in new jersey he's got the bridgegate scandal. and he's still climbing back from that.
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today, in this room, what's the goal? >> the goal is to -- sorry for the pun but to bridge the gap, the gap he has with conservatives. and he intends to do that according to to christie aides by talking about his record as a republican in a blue state and how he has gotten things done. look, he is somebody who is not afraid to come into crowds that aren't always friendly to him. and this is a crowd of conservative activists, a very important crowd of conservative activists who in the past have not been afraid to hit back at their speakers if they don't agree with them. john mccain got booed before this crowd back in 2008 after the whole immigration debate that divided the party. so that is going to be the fascinating thing to watch, not only what chris christie says, but how he is received by this crowd. >> he is due up in just a few minutes. dana bash, thank you for being there. stay with cnn -- oh, wait, here he comes. i think he's actually approaching the podium right
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now. new jersey governor chris christie speaking now in a very important speech to conservatives. let's listen. >> thank you. thank you all very much. good to be here. good to be here. thank you all for your warm welcome. i want to start off with a story from new jersey. a few years ago our pension fund and our public employee health benefit fund together was over $130 billion in debt. and we put together a plan to do the things that they should be doing here in washington, d.c. on entitlements. raise the retirement age and cost of living adjustments, more penalties for early retirement and more money being put into the system by the people who are actually benefitting from it. and after we proposed this, you can imagine, i was extraordinarily popular with the public employee unions. so we decided to do what we do
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in new jersey, not to go to the chamber of commerce and have a lunch. i decided to go to the new jersey firefighters convention. went to the firefighters convention and i was introduced and it was significantly a longer walk to the stage than it was up here. and that entire time i was being bathed in the love of the public employee unions. when i got up to the stage, the person running the convention said, governor, i'm sorry for the reception. i said, no, no, i came up to the podium like this and i said, as they were booing the hell out of me, i said, come on, you can do better than that. let's go. and they did. and then i said to them, i had prepared remarks to make and i took them and i tore them up and threw it at the side of the stage. and i said here's the thing, i understand that you're angry. and i understand that you feel deceived. and i understand why you're booing. the only thing i don't understand is why you're booing
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the first person to ever come here and told you the truth. the truth is that if we don't change these pensions, you're not going to collect them. that's the truth. and the fact is that for each and every one of you, you may hate me now, but ten years from now after i've made the changes that need to be made and you're collecting your pension, you'll be looking for my address on the internet to send me a thank you note for saving the retirement for you and your families. the amazing thing that happened was that after i was done with those remarks and i ended, six minutes, seven minutes tops, i walked off the stage and two-thirds of the audience was cheering. here's the reason why and what i want to talk to you about this morning. we have to talk about what we're for and not what we're against.
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and the reason for that is very, very simple. and it's exactly what i said to cpac in chicago in 2012. the reason we have to start talking about what we're for and not continuing to rail against what we're against is because of one simple reason, our ideas are better than their ideas. and that's what we have to stand up for. and if you need any further example of that, just look at what's going on in terms of what they're for in washington, d.c. what they're for in washington, d.c. is to have the leader of the senate democrats stand up and rail against two american entrepreneurs who have built a business, created jobs and created wealth and fi lan tlfil tlop pi. harry reid ought to get back to work and -- it's

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